27 February,2008 11:22

看看人家美國人問的問題!




前幾天
我也看了兩位總統候選人的辯論會
看完實在覺得
我們的"公民提問"素質實在有夠差
值得探討的
有意義的問題可能不超過五個
大都要嘛是廢話
要嘛是知道答案還明知故問
要嘛
就是給候選人大打官腔
或吹噓任內"政績"的廢物問題

我之前就講過了
我信仰菁英主義
我認為絕大多數人都是白癡
這次公民提問
只是再度印證我的想法而已
找這些人去問總統候選人問題
真的除了浪費大家的時間之外
看不出有甚麼其它的功用

在我看
與其搞這種毫無意義的公民提問
倒不如讓兩個候選人互相詰問五十題
雖然說也不過是老調老梗互相攻訐
但保證也會比這種鳥到爆的公民提問有趣多了

關於那些愚蠢的"公民"提出的"蠢問題"
我的一個朋友S先生已經寫了這一篇文章詳細評論了
在這裡我就不再贅述
大家就移駕到他的網誌去看就好了
寫得挺中肯的我認為

不過這篇文章主要倒不是嘲笑這些人的愚蠢
我只是想給大家看看
同樣是對總統候選人提問
美國人是怎麼問的

我今天早上看NYTimes的時候
發現紐時搞了這個很有趣的東西
就是他們發現民主黨的初選已經進行一年了
但好像有些問題有些議題一直都還沒有被問
所以紐時就去找了一些學有專精的人
看看他們還有甚麼問題
想要問問歐巴馬和希拉蕊的

原文聯結在這裡

真的不是我相信外國的月亮比較圓
但是你看看人家問的問題嘛
再看看我們的"公民"問的問題嘛
那種程度完全是高下立判
不可同日而語
讓我不由得又想到伏爾泰說的
“Judge a man by his questions rather than by his answers”

現在就來看看這些問題:

1. Responding to a questionnaire from The Boston Globe on presidential power, you both criticized President Bush’s use of signing statements, with which he has asserted a constitutional right to bypass more than 1,000 sections of bills that he has signed into law. You both also said you would continue using signing statements, though in a less aggressive way.

But the American Bar Association has called for an end to this practice, and Senator John McCain says he will never issue a signing statement. Why are they wrong?

2. Both of you have said the Constitution does not allow a president to detain a citizen without charges as an enemy combatant. But President Bush won court rulings upholding the indefinite detention of two Americans as enemy combatants. Were the courts wrong? Does a president have the authority to interpret the Constitution differently from the judiciary? Would you ever use the court-approved authority to hold a citizen indefinitely as an enemy combatant?

3. Both of you have said that President Bush cannot attack Iran without first obtaining Congressional authorization for the use of military force. But two Democratic presidents, Harry Truman and Bill Clinton, ordered American forces into extended armed conflicts without Congressional authorization. Did the Korean and Kosovo wars violate the Constitution? Would an attack on Iran be legally different, and if so, how?

4. Are there any circumstances — including in matters of detention, surveillance, interrogation and troop deployments — under which you believe that presidents have the constitutional power as commander in chief to bypass laws in order to take an action they think is necessary to protect national security?

5. Proponents of the so-called unitary executive theory argue that the Constitution does not allow Congress to enact statutes that place the actions of executive-branch officials beyond the president’s control, such as by giving independent decision-making authority to the head of a regulatory agency. Do you agree?

CHARLIE SAVAGE, a reporter for The Boston Globe and the author of “Takeover: The Return of the Imperial Presidency and the Subversion of American Democracy.”





1. Social Security will go into a cash deficit during the next president’s prospective second term. Therefore, if elected, you will: a) do nothing and leave growing deficits to your successor; b) cut benefits, eligibility or both, as President Bush tried; c) raise the payroll tax; or d) there is no d. Those are the only options.

2. Domestic gun owners kill more Americans each year than terrorists have in total since 2000 (even if you define all American fatalities in Iraq as related to terrorism). Can the homeland be secure when our schools are not? If your answer is no, will you take on the National Rifle Association and work for a gun law with teeth?

3. Senator Obama, virtually all economists say trade is good for growth, but you have blamed trade deals like the North American Free Trade Agreement for the loss of American jobs. Do you really think building an economic wall along the Rio Grande will promote a stronger, more resilient American economy, and if so why?

4. Senator Clinton, will you take on your Wall Street friends and raise the effective income tax on private-equity fund managers and hedge fund managers, who are now taxed at the capital gains rate of 15 percent? Please explain why the richest Americans should pay the lowest taxes.

5. Senator Obama, you rail against the oil companies, but under the American system of free enterprise, aren’t companies supposed to earn a profit — and even to charge what the market will bear?

6. Franklin D. Roosevelt, a president you both have evoked, said Americans need fear only fear itself. Under President Bush, Americans have been told to so fear terrorism that the executive branch has been permitted to snoop on citizens, hijack the powers of Congress and torture foreigners. Do you agree that fear of terrorism has been pushed too far, and if so, what measures would you adopt to return the United States to a more normal civilian life?

ROGER LOWENSTEIN, a contributing writer for The New York Times Magazine and the author of the forthcoming “While America Aged.”





1. Both of you have argued for more widespread access to the Internet in schools. Given the recent “To Read or Not to Read” report from the National Endowment for the Arts, which revealed a steep decline in reading among young people, and the lack of evidence that computers in the classroom help students learn, wouldn’t federal funds be better spent on projects that encourage reading and engagement with the arts?

2. The Internet is often praised as a liberating force in American culture, but it has also drawn comparisons to an unruly mob. Would you support a federally financed, long-term study of how our use of this technology is changing our behavior, for good and for ill?

3. You have both admitted to being BlackBerry addicts. How has this desire for constant connection and endless information changed your personal relationships and how has it transformed political culture?

— CHRISTINE ROSEN, a fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center and a senior editor of The New Atlantis: A Journal of Technology and Society.





The long advocacy for universal health-care coverage by Democrats has earned a base of public support, but it has also provided an easy focus for political attacks. Although universal coverage will protect businesses and families from unmanageable costs, it will also increase government spending considerably and increase government involvement in health care.

The strategy you have adopted as candidates is the same one that Democrats have used for decades without success (including in 1993, when I was a health policy adviser in the first Clinton administration). You have both designed plans that aim to minimize government costs and to minimize changes for Americans with good health coverage, while still constructing a safety net of coverage for the growing millions without insurance.

This approach, however, inevitably increases the complexity of our Rube Goldberg health system. It has made your policies difficult to explain. It has failed to prevent charges that you are promoting “socialized medicine.” And it has cost you the enthusiasm of Americans who want a simpler, tax-based, Medicare-for-all system.

How do you persuade supporters of single-payer health care that your proposals are worth fighting for? And how can you assure the rest of us that the costs and complexities of your plans are actually manageable?

ATUL GAWANDE, a general surgeon, a staff writer for The New Yorker and the author of “Better: A Surgeon’s Notes on Performance.”





1. Senator Obama, as commander in chief an American president must understand the sense of honor that motivates his armed forces. Last September, MoveOn.org ran an advertisement in The Times that mocked Gen. David H. Petraeus, the American commander in Iraq, as “General Betray Us.” You chose not to vote on the Senate resolution that condemned the advertisement. Would you still characterize the Senate vote as a “stunt” and “empty politics”?

2. Samantha Power, one of Senator Obama’s chief foreign policy advisers, strongly criticized the United States in her book “A Problem From Hell” for failing to intervene in the 1994 genocide in Rwanda and for the three-year delay in intervening in the Bosnian war, until the 1995 Srebrenica massacre.

Saddam Hussein also committed genocide by killing thousands of Iraqi Kurds with chemical weapons in the late 1980s and massacring thousands of Shiite marsh dwellers in southern Iraq after the first gulf war. How could we have left Mr. Hussein in power? How can Senator Obama say that removing a genocidal killer was a “dumb” war?

3. Senator Clinton, you have stated that American troop withdrawals from Iraq will begin as soon as you take office as president. But you also note on your campaign Web site that you will order “narrow and targeted operations against Al Qaeda and other terrorist organizations in the region.”

Isn’t that what the surge is about? The United States and local leaders have allied to drive out members of Al Qaeda from Baghdad and other areas. How is your policy any different from the policy of President Bush?

4. The 22nd Amendment to the Constitution bars any former president from election to a third term. Is it truly consistent with the spirit of the Constitution to have the same professional couple occupying the White House for 12 years? Isn’t this all the more true when Bill Clinton promised that voters would receive, during his first term, “two for the price of one”?

— RUTH WEDGWOOD, a professor of international law and diplomacy at Johns Hopkins, was an adviser to the Rudolph Giuliani campaign.





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菁英主義。 恕我無法。認同
那就像。柏拉圖的理想國

聖人般的君主。用理性執行公務。少了情感
法律。具有崇高的地位。 不可被推翻

我相信。每個人。都是聰明的孩子
只有。在挫敗的人生道路上
有勇氣的前進。遇上
魔法森林的梅林。哈利波特的白鬍子校長
老子。悉達多。達文西。奧瑪伽音

人生的。成長與學習
沒有終點

就像。禪
以為看見。終點 的人

無法同理。他人 想法的人
感覺自己。高高在上的人

世上的美好。與他 摖間而過
如何看待世界。世界如何看你

人非聖賢。熟能無過?
過而反省。只要有心
鄉民。都是好人 ><
送給你。好嗎?

erc16a  | 27/02/2008 12:05:30



請問索尼大
什麼是菁英主義

pixnet user  比利  | 27/02/2008 12:11:09



一樓的是來鬧場的嗎QQ?

pixnet user  什麼鬼  | 27/02/2008 12:36:41



文章還沒看完,不過第一篇留言是怎麼一回事啊,整個大囧。
這是靈異事件嗎?

無意義的標點,奇怪的文法,像經書一樣的內容,
堪稱注音文和火星文之後最有潛力的文體!

我覺得回文還是通俗一點比較好,不然意境這麼高。。。。我等凡夫俗子難以消受啊。orz

Reply:
哈哈哈哈哈
我覺得他很可愛阿
SpinalCord@27/02/2008 13:33:40

pixnet user  空中的人形醫生  | 27/02/2008 12:45:30



阿彌陀佛
小女子可以理解一樓的佛心來著
但是相信我...這些人不信教...還是回家跟其他鄰居小孩傳教吧

總統辯論會恕我沒停留太多時間在螢幕上
膚淺的我看到整個辯論會場猶如80年代的佈置 觀眾緊張害怕地僵坐 兩位候選人神經緊繃地閃爍眼光 害前幾天才看了美國民主黨德州辯論的我 為了不想傷害眼睛而轉台

外國的月亮確實比較圓
視覺上就差很多

Reply:
真的是場猶如80年代的佈置
說得真貼切呀
SpinalCord@27/02/2008 13:34:08

cadi  | 27/02/2008 13:24:53



你眼中眾多的白痴不會口出貶人之詞
默默的造就你這個精英索尼
可以分享想法
無須傷人

路人甲  | 27/02/2008 15:34:45



台灣提問的公民是普通鄉民嗎?
NYT的問題確實都是學有專精的專家(expert)問的 這樣比較好像不太公平

我不太確定台美雙方彼此的模式
但覺得這種辯論場合應設計讓專家及鄉民有分開提問的機會
畢竟~一個總統必須同時滿足專家及鄉民的需求及重視的焦點

cadi  | 27/02/2008 18:35:22



http://02.plus28.com/redirect.php?tid=2091735&goto=lastpost

看看American 有多stupid
什麼菁英主義
自認是菁英
如果真是菁英
就會懂得謙虛
否則只是自大罷了

Taiwaner  | 27/02/2008 20:21:53



我看到。一樓的
回應。我

笑。了

123  | 27/02/2008 21:33:47



菁英?你是?

www  | 28/02/2008 21:58:07

時間

時間,時間
不要心急,美國人玩電視辯論早從六零年代,甘迺迪對尼克森開始,兩位精英都做古了
接下來,電視蓬勃發展,加上近期的網路,發展一日千里,大家都浸淫的非常滲透飽和,很多人自稱News Junkie,很多人現在自己開blog賣廣告,轟轟烈烈
用平路的話說,這。是。一。個。積。纍。的。過。程。
時間,時間,敬請耐心拭目以待。

阿勤  | 29/02/2008 07:35:36



奇怪
很多人不知道眼睛有毛病還是頭殼裝豆腐
版主只說了他信仰精英主義
哪一句提到他是精英了
這你們的推論信基督教的人都當耶穌了

左  | 01/03/2008 02:36:44



拜託,不是絕得絕大部分的人都是白痴
那你大概認為自己是菁英吧
還隨便批評別人
結果被你自己的朋友爆料說又胖又醜,跟朋友借錢買東西很久不還,大學轉過很多次學....阿是唸畢業了沒有?
講過了,人外有人天外有天
是菁英的話更懂得謙虛,更懂得感恩得到的社會資源多過於在你眼中認為是白痴的人
人家好好的有自信結果你因為自己的自卑感作祟,批評別人,還沾沾自喜,一但被你自己的朋友看不過去爆料,結果呢?把那篇文章給鎖了起來
呵呵,這還真是菁英的做法啊
看來以後沒有人敢稱自己是菁英了
當你自稱自己是菁英之後.....
呵呵




"我之前就講過了
我信仰菁英主義
我認為絕大多數人都是白癡
這次公民提問
只是再度印證我的想法而已
找這些人去問總統候選人問題
真的除了浪費大家的時間之外
看不出有甚麼其它的功用"

Reply:
......別急@@
那文章是在編輯
並不是鎖起來喔
別擔心XD
SpinalCord@01/03/2008 21:23:25

你自己才頭殼裝豆腐,裝豆腐的菁英,呵呵  | 01/03/2008 21:19:56



蘋果社論給台長參考

--
知識界自戀

台灣的「知識界」集體自戀嚴重。自戀也者,就是極度自以為了不起,自以為最優、最清高,自我感覺最良好,自以為是正義的化身,自以為是集體價值的捍衛者,自以為社會少了他們就「萬古如長夜」。諷刺的是,所有自戀者,都共同具有「反智主義」的傾向。
公民提問更符民主要求
前天馬謝辯論之後學術界的「不爽」,可以看出這次辯論冷落了學界,讓他們的自戀式自尊受到了創傷,因為他們自認為具有最佳詮釋社會的權力。知識界對辯論當天的主辦單位、主持人和提問公民都很不滿,認為問題不深入,應由學者繼續追問。原來知識界這麼重要喔。可是,為什麼歐美大選時,從沒聽說有個知識界站出來代表自己發言,也沒聽說有什麼學者集團對辯論如此不滿。他們的知識界和一般公民一樣,沒有特殊地位,更沒有自我想像中的社會權力。從這裡看見了我們知識界自戀式的傲慢。
中國傳統認為士大夫是最清高的,萬般皆下品,唯有讀書高,除了讀書,餘皆奇技淫巧之末,與西方社會發展出的職業平等觀念大異其趣,於是促成了西方科技的大盛,與中國科技的沒落。馬列主義發展出來的先鋒隊菁英主義接著流行中國,儒馬合流,知識份子遂自命不凡起來。公民提問很好,貼近生活又不打高空,比所謂知識份子更符合民主和現實的要求。

pixnet user  Meiching  | 03/03/2008 16:49:29



http://blog.pixnet.net/Begabung/post/14929392
wow 從這裡看到這邊來 cool

無名  | 23/03/2008 05:42:26



菁英主義???

真是太有趣了

在我們的聯考制度下

「每年」

每一個類組都會出一個榜首

上百個台大電機、資工、法律

上千個醫生.....

上萬個建中 北一女 中一中 中女中 雄中雄女.......

但出了社會後,最有成就的往往都不是這些人

每天吃飯的時候,想想飯桌上的菜是誰種的?

菁英?菁英?菁英?菁英?菁英?菁英?

hero  | 25/03/2008 22:30:10
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